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THE PROF. ALEXANDER REVENKO INTERVIEW
PAR = Professor Alexander Revenko
ISTA: What motivated you to take
up SCENAR?
What is your vision for this therapy?
PAR:
SCENAR is my life, my deal on this planet, my destiny.
If Scenar and I had not met, and had it not been in
my life, I would have had no motivation. SCENAR is
a part of the Universe; it seems to be allied to life
itself. We are this living pulsing organism, which
constantly strives, dreams, plans, but IT constantly
surprises you, breaks your expectations and stereotypes.
With Scenar therapy you may have planned something,
a treatment plan, and you await a definite outcome,
but with each patient you in fact begin with a clean
sheet - and there is motion, progress, dynamic.
ISTA:
As you are aware, there are now a multitude of organisations
offering a range of SCENAR devices. How can we differentiate
between genuine and non-genuine ones?
PAR: Very simply - all this has been
done by Aubrey Scoon (UK), who has taken the Russian
SCENAR-patent and has compared the features of the
instrument on an oscilloscope with that declared in
the patent. And this was also done by one of the main
designers of SCENAR - 97 and NT, Dr Misha Unakafov,
at the International Conference in Bulgaria in 2003
. Both studies have shown the difference between Fenzian
and SCENAR on the oscilloscope. And this difference
was further proven by A.A.N., principal physician
at the preventive sanatorium in Ekaterinburg
(he previously presented comparative
results of similar treatments on similar patients
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ISTA: As you are painfully
aware, the internationalisation of SCENAR has been accompanied
by a lot of rivalry and many claims and counterclaims; the
common denominator appears to have been an urgency to make
money. How do you feel about this?
PAR: It is my philosophical belief that
throughout time people have been divided into 2 categories
- one half is motivated by skimming the cream from the milk
and smooth talking in order to achieve things, the other
half is concerned with reality, professionalism, truth and
action. Each fulfils its specific mission on earth; although
opposites, the makers of the money are needed to support
the progress of the professional and practical people. Certain
is that in the final analysis all eventually become subsumed
by history. For makers of money, there exists the instinct
of self-justification, justification for their foolish,
meaningless and mercenary actions; but a thousand years
from now some physician will read the history of Scenar
Therapy and will find therein no more than one line about
Nadtochy, Frost, Avakyan, Ryavkin and some others.
ISTA: The same diversity that exists amongst
SCENAR manufacturers also permeates the training on offer
for SCENAR users and practitioners. Most people who attend
basic training courses never return for more training –
and still claim successes when treating others. Sometimes
the message is projected that the power of SCENAR can substitute
training. What are your views on this?
PAR: A SCENAR therapist may successfully
cure a patient with just Basic Level 1 training, and a Diag-0
setting; but consistent results will only be achieved by
the deep understanding arising from constant revision and
training. Instruction from manuals only, cannot replace
training and does not promote development of effectiveness.
Those who wholly work in Diag-0, or, on instructions, in
automatic mode (which is presented by Alexander Karasev)
may after 20 years practice become perfect and efficient.
But in general, there has to the development of the therapist's
own personality within the riverbed of SCENAR philosophy,
laws and principles. It is necessary to drink water from
a clean moving source, rather than from a standing pool.
ISTA: You mention skills-partnerships with
SCENAR, have you found any disciplines to be particularly
helpful alongside SCENAR? Are there any that may be considered
contra-indicated? For example, a view seems to be forming
that pure healing, through laying-on of hands, or remote
sensing, interferes with SCENAR.
PAR: I am presently developing a deeper
clarity on how to present that Scenar therapy is not electrotherapy
with biofeedback, but the interaction of energy-information
between two systems and intellects - the operator and the
patient – requiring the active participation of the
patient as well as the practitioner. In Russian scientific
circles more and more work on tortion fields and thin energy
is being published . For example, the Academician Fedotkin
is preparing to publish a monograph on the mechanism of
the influence of SCENAR on such a unique system as the human
organism. Therefore, all disciplines that similarly work
with energy-information influences and interact with the
organism of the person – such as acupuncture, cranial
osteopathy, homeopathy, ayurveda etc. (where the practitioner
treats the patient with SCENAR and another complementary
skills) this combination will help and intensify the effects
and work towards correcting the complaints and problems
of the patient. However, I am against reinforcement of the
effect SCENAR where the speed-up comes about by using 'forcible'
methods without participation of the patient, for example,
by means of such methods as manual therapy, rough massage,
medication, hormones, steroids, antibiotics, any form of
anti-pain medication, heat, rhythms, lithium etc.)
ISTA: Is self-treatment possible? How,
for instance, would you apply treatment to your spine?
PAR: Certainly possible, particularly when
no other option is available in the moment (i.e. the person
is alone); self-help under sharp trauma can be achieved.
For example, I cured my back, using known basic principles
of Scenar therapy, the reciprocal zones - on limbs or the
frontal surface of the body.
ISTA: When SCENAR was introduced in England,
the importance of the healing triangle (patient-device-practitioner)
and its good interaction was emphasized. Is this still your
view, and does the effect of this triangulation not get
lost in self-treatment?
PAR: Yes. And, again in desperate situations,
when no close friend or assistant is available to treat
using SCENAR, then the fields happen to unite themselves,
and patient and operator become one energy, and, although
it is a truncated, weakened triangle, the connection is
still there and will work, though, of course, it will be
rather weaker than with the correct 3-way triangle.
ISTA: We have to acknowledge that there
are many who have trained, sometimes at considerable expense,
to become SCENAR practitioners, while others simply start
using SCENAR devices. Does this matter, if they get results?
PAR: The application of Scenar therapy
procedures promotes characteristic changes in the practitioner,
besides developing his or her specific skills; this is not
typical of other professions (included psychologists). The
skilled SCENAR - therapist uses a number of methods, psychological,
creative and on other levels. A continuous search for suitable
methods awakens in SCENAR-therapists a deep need for the
study of his or her interactions with patients. Good training
is so much more than just learning about protocols.
ISTA: From some of your comments in this
interview and previously, we get the impression that you
welcome the formation of ISTA. Is this so, and why?
PAR: In our age, information is much valued
above other goods. I believe the main function and asset
of ISTA will be - RELIABLE information for all, patients
and therapists - about SCENAR, its history, genuine instruments
and copies, genuine inventors and researchers - truth and
only truth. After all, the patient entrusts YOU with the
most valuable thing, their life, soul, tranquillity and
enjoyment of life. S/He, and only s/he, has the right of
choice, s/he must know – whether it is a genuine SCENAR
or a copy; whether a given therapist has progressed through
all levels of Scenar training and education; whether he
or she is constantly improving their own knowledge to extend
the effectiveness of SCENAR therapy; whether a given teacher
in Scenar therapy has been at the feet of the Master, been
to the Source, or has just grabbed a little knowledge here
and there and circulated it, without regard to morality
and professional ethos.
ISTA: Thank you for your supportive words.
We are sure that our members will have many questions arising
from this interview and their experiences with SCENAR in
general. Would you be willing to continue answering these
(they will be filtered through this editorial office; in
some instances, we shall ask some or all those who have
given interviews, to provide their respective answer to
the same question)?
PAR: Of course.
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